Primary name server not listed at parent как исправить

# dig +trace SERVER-BUSINESS.RU
...
SERVER-BUSINESS.ru.	345600	IN	NS	oxygen.ns.hetzner.com.
SERVER-BUSINESS.ru.	345600	IN	NS	hydrogen.ns.hetzner.com.
SERVER-BUSINESS.ru.	345600	IN	NS	helium.ns.hetzner.de.
;; Received 644 bytes from 194.190.124.17#53(d.dns.ripn.net) in 72 ms
...
SERVER-BUSINESS.RU.	3600	IN	A	135.181.20.85
SERVER-BUSINESS.RU.	3600	IN	NS	robotns3.second-ns.com.
SERVER-BUSINESS.RU.	3600	IN	NS	robotns2.second-ns.de.
SERVER-BUSINESS.RU.	3600	IN	NS	oxygen.ns.hetzner.com.
SERVER-BUSINESS.RU.	3600	IN	NS	ns2.SERVER-BUSINESS.RU.
SERVER-BUSINESS.RU.	3600	IN	NS	helium.ns.hetzner.de.
SERVER-BUSINESS.RU.	3600	IN	NS	hydrogen.ns.hetzner.com.
SERVER-BUSINESS.RU.	3600	IN	NS	ns1.first-ns.de.
SERVER-BUSINESS.RU.	3600	IN	NS	ns1.SERVER-BUSINESS.RU.
;; Received 316 bytes from 193.47.99.5#53(helium.ns.hetzner.de) in 77 ms

То есть, на родительском NS-сервере указаны только три NS-сервера, а на основном NS-сервере их указано восемь. А эти списки должны совпадать.

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Добрый день!!
есть у меня сайт centr-sushi.ru. крутится все на VDS на firstvds.ru
Настроил почту. проверяю на https://mxtoolbox.com
пишет Primary Name Server Not Listed At Parent. Как решить эту проблему ??
Прикладываю скрин с настройками домена
https://yadi.sk/d/SBY5l4pIsiciv
P.s Проблема в том что письма с моего домена на gmail.com идут в спам, вот из за этого весь сыр бор

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на картинке в SOA запись не соответствует реали

dig @ns1.firstvds.ru. centr-sushi.ru soa

centr-sushi.ru.         3600    IN      SOA     firstvds_ru. tech.firstvds.ru. 2016062100 10800 3600 604800 86400 

firstvds_ru. — это по-твоему имя NS сервера ?
если бы там было ns1.firstvds.ru или ns2.firstvds.ru — все было бы нормально.

vel ★★★★★

(22.06.16 21:13:20 MSK)

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от vel 22.06.16 21:13:20 MSK

Я немного не догоняю, В чем может быть причина точто SOA запись может не соотыествовать реали. Ns сервера я проверил .. все записи вродебы в норме.

/etc/bind/centr-sushi.ru

 
$TTL 3600
centr-sushi.ru.	IN	SOA	centr-sushi.ru. admin.centr-sushi.ru. (2016062029 10800 3600 604800 86400)
centr-sushi.ru.	IN	NS	ns1.firstvds.ru.
centr-sushi.ru.	IN	NS	ns2.firstvds.ru.
centr-sushi.ru.	IN	MX	10 mail
centr-sushi.ru.	IN	MX	20 mail
centr-sushi.ru.	IN	A	83.220.171.226
www	IN	A	83.220.171.226
ftp	IN	A	83.220.171.226
mail	3600	IN	A	83.220.171.226
pop	3600	IN	A	83.220.171.226
smtp	3600	IN	A	83.220.171.226
centr-sushi.ru.	3600	IN	TXT	"v=spf1 ip4:83.220.171.226 a mx ~all"
dkim._domainkey	3600	IN	TXT	"v=DKIM1; k=rsa; s=email; p=MIGfMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBAQUAA4GNADCBiQKBgQDfACTt1Y8OCuLdyIVZob8CLqLsrwBTSvuWjRe+aoKSW+hfrQuOR0uHg+P78iaJlTET0j9DD19aNNv8v7pOKRnnDvUq2I1cq4Fjd3wjQnPi16HXEtg6BW3RUrX0USx6KQEXtgODqWF7TpMOeDMzGtZJRKs2LMvlZtYHwvHJ27cG7wIDAQAB"
_dmarc	3600	IN	TXT	"v=DMARC1; p=none; sp=none; rua=mailto:admin@centr-sushi.ru"

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(23.06.16 08:34:13 MSK)

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от Fast126 23.06.16 08:34:13 MSK

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от Fast126 23.06.16 08:35:26 MSK

Все я кажется понял.. У меня просто данные не передаются DNS менеджер.
Пишет Поле » имеет недопустимое значение. Только что это за поле не понятно

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(23.06.16 10:48:54 MSK)

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от Fast126 23.06.16 08:35:26 MSK

В твоем файле такая же ошибка — основной dns сервер (centr-sushi.ru.) указанный в записи SOA отсутствует в списке dns-серверов.

А строки
centr-sushi.ru. IN NS centr-sushi.ru. нет

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(23.06.16 10:56:18 MSK)

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от vel 23.06.16 10:56:18 MSK

Так Все исправил. Спасибо.. Еще маленький вопрос ..

На том же сайте выдает мне предупреждение:
Reverse DNS is not a valid Hostname

насколько я понял это запись ptr. Но она у меня вроде верна..

Fast126

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от Fast126 23.06.16 15:44:22 MSK

Это для почтовика?

Ну у тебя mail.centr-sushi.ru. -> 83.220.171.226

а 83.220.171.226 -> centr-sushi.ru. -> 83.220.171.226

Есть такая проблема, гуглить «multiple ptr records for one ip»

Обратный dns сейчас востребован в первую очередь в smtp.

vel ★★★★★

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от vel 23.06.16 16:01:11 MSK

Да для почтовика.. Просто gmail кидает письма с моего домена в спам.. Вот и вникаю в суть вопроса..

Еще этот ISP manager многое не дает отредактировать, приходится вручную

Fast126

(23.06.16 17:37:25 MSK)

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I have a hosted zone created in Route53 and updated the NS records under the namespaces of the purchased domain.

Unfortunately the DNS check does not return or point to the new NS records instead gets resolved to old/ previously existing records.

I waited more than 72 hours and still i get «This site can’t be reached»failing with error DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN in the browser.

Below is a screenshot from the DNS check provided by https://mxtoolbox.com/,

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It shows that the old NS records (First 4 rows with TTL to 48 hours) are present in the Parent and not in local whereas the newly updated records (The last 4 records) are present in the parent and not in the local.

Ping to the domain fails with Unknown host.

What are the next steps?

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When you update the name servers for a domain, remove the old name server records.

Your TTL is set to 48 hours. That means any recursive resolver such as dns.google will not refresh for 48 hours after last update. For resolvers that have not cached your resource records, they might update immediately but might also get stale data from an upstream resolver. Wait a few hours so that you do not force a new cache load with old data and then check with an Internet tool such as dnschecker.org Change the selection box from A to NS to see the name server changes.

In general I recommend that it takes 48 to 72 hours for authoritative name server changes to propagate around the world.

Google DNS supports «Flush Cache». Wait an hour or two and then request that Google update their DNS cache. Flush Cache

Cloudflare also supports Purge Cache

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Also, do not forget to flush your local computer’s DNS cache:

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